I became Grey Wolf through dreams ... At 60 I started making drums

By family tradition, I am part Cherokee and I can feel it in the way I relate to the drums I make

I am 72 years old and I have made more than 5,000 drums with a variety of tribes, the Boy Scouts, a camp for blind children and a variety of organizations.

As Grey Wolf was chosen for me through dreams so was the octagon shape for my drums

I try to move with the flow while making only good ripples while a guest in this life.

I am not social. I don't belong to any clubs or groups

I make elk rawhide, high-quality drums and drum-making kits for very reasonable prices.
The more drums, the more people drumming, the better the world.

I find my direction in the world created for me by the great spirit. If I live another ten or fifteen years and continue to make drums, my drum-making legacy will be substantial

My epitaph might read ...

"If I planted a tree in the morning, made a drum in the afternoon and
died in the evening, it would be a good day."

Namaste ... In the Spirit,

Cliff - Grey Wolf